It is an honor to receive feedback from an author whose article we have cited in our paper. Our paper addressed the measurement of the aesthetic female breast in the Western visual art of a specific era in order to develop a reference point for the design of breast augmentation and reconstructive operations.
Brown defined cultural universals (also called "anthropological universals" or "human universals") as comprising "those features of culture, society, language, behavior, aesthetics and psyche for which there are no known exceptions" [[1]]. In other words, a cultural universal is an element, pattern, trait, or institution that is common to all human cultures worldwide. On the other hand, where we find differences among cultures, we might think that the masterpieces of a given era represent the culture and values of that period.
An early example of the body used as an identity marker in Western society occurred in the Victorian era, when women wore corsets to help themselves attain the bodily form they wished to possess [[2]]. Having a tiny waist was a sign of social status, as wealthier women could afford to dress more extravagantly and wear items such as corsets to increase their physical attractiveness [[3]].
We respond below to several of the points mentioned in the feedback.
We appreciate the point about the distortion of the chest when the torso is flexed or leaning to the side. In our study, we first drew costal margins. Then, the infrasternal angle covering the xiphisternal joint was determined, and other landmarks were also marked [[4]]. The midclavicular line was determined by the midpoint from the sternal notch to the lateral end of the shoulder. We believe that if we had chosen to evaluate the works of Lucien Clergue (1970-present), French fine art nude photographer, or Alfred Cheney Johnson, who produced 1920-30's depictions of the Ziegfield Follies showgirls such as Dorothy Flood, anthropometric measurements (AM) would have been much easier.
The feedback also included a valuable observation about the angle of the arm relative to the torso. In the paintings where one arm was adducted or abducted less than 90 degrees and another arm was abducted more than 90 degrees, the sternal notch to nipple (sn-n) and nipple to xiphoid process (n-xi) distances were measured only on the side that was adducted or abducted less than 90 degrees. In the two paintings in which both arms were abducted more than 90 degrees, their sn-n, and n-xi distances were not included in the data.
We agree with the feedback on the importance of comparing measurements of artistic works and those in a clinical context. In the version of the paper we initially submitted, we attempted to correlate our findings with the results of the reported clinical anthropometric studies. In the review process, however, the content had to be deleted because the number of references had to be reduced to 15. I would like to use this opportunity to introduce the deleted excerpt of the discussion section and the references that elucidate the issue of clinical correlation in the paragraph that follows:
Avsar et al. [[5]] measured 385 Turkish female undergraduate student volunteers (18-26 years of age) and stated that the ideal external view of the breasts without ptosis was observed in 35.1% of the volunteers. Agbenorku et al. [[6]] also measured 438 students of Ghana (16-22 years) and described the average distances from the nipple to the suprasternal notch (left, 20.97 cm; right, 20.3 cm), inframammary crease (left, 9.36 cm; right, 9.21 cm), and xiphoid area (left, 10.94 cm; right, 10.84 cm).
We hope to move "from strength to strength" (a medieval homiletic phrase) with the help of the comments of other researchers.
